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  1 hour 14 minute ph call from coordinator last night ?

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i didn't recognise his number , cordial talk for 2 minutes then what can i say , the chook rose to the occasion.

  i will relay main points but the order is not necessarily correct.

  he wants to visit with an other elder ( i live in two states 2/3 of time in a new house in their territory, but they don't know address yet ).

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  The Fall Guy

  You stated your case loud and clear to them, and if it's energized you - brilliant!

  The bottom line is however, that anyone who opens their mouth to elders are wasting their breath! Elders neither hear nor want to hear what faders/apostates have to say. It's the nature of the beast which they represent. If the elder didn't record the conversation this time, you can bet your bottom dollar he'll be prepared to do so if he calls again. You're now in his cross-hairs.

  If you want peace and quiet from them, just tell them you've nothing to discuss with them at present, but you know where to get them if you change your mind.

  I wish you the very best as you deal with the circling wolves.
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  A question to ask the trolley Witnesses

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "do jehovah' witnesses believe that it's ok to receive messages from dead people who are in heaven?

  re chap.

  20 pp.

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  "Do Jehovah' Witnesses believe that it's OK to receive messages from dead people who are in heaven?"

  re chap. 20 pp. 124-125 par. 17 A Multitudinous Great Crowd - "Yes, that elder could locate the answer and give it to John. This suggests that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group (resurrected 144,000 ones) may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today."

  w07 1/1 p. 28 par. 11 “The First Resurrection”—Now Under Way! - "What, then, can we deduce from the fact that one of the 24 elders identifies the great crowd to John? It seems that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today."

  I've got this mental image of the J.W. G.B. sitting round their table every Wednesday morning, holding each other's hands

  Anyone remember what Deuteronomy 18:10-12 says Jehovah thinks about this topic?
  
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  "Only Witnesses demonstrate Christian Love"

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so a couple of nights ago i was speaking with a relative and we began talking about the organization.

  i had to asked her "why do you believe that this religion is the correct one?

  " they stood quiet for a second but then said that they view and feel genuine christian love, a type of love that is spoken about in the bible.

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  The Fall Guy

  Fact #1 - When I became a J.W., not one of my "worldly" friends or associates abandoned or ridiculed me.

  Fact #2 - In all my years as a J.W., the only persecution I experienced was from different B.O.E.'s.

  Of all J.W.'s I've ever known, elders stand out as being the most corrupt and un-Christian people I've had the misfortune to know. They were nothing more than puffed-up little tyrants who were legends in their own minds.
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  in retrospect: RBCs vs LDCs / the hype about a lot of new construction and subsequent abrupt halt to construction

  by Magnum in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so, now that some time has passed, i’d like some input/thoughts/analysis/etc.

  on the jw construction situation in the last few years.. first, why did they discontinue the rbc arrangement and institute the ldc arrangement?

  was it for more and/or better control?

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  The Fall Guy

  All of the above!

  The LDC (IMO) was created as a new but crucial hierarchical entity which would rigorously enact & enforce all aspects of the draconian changes concerning KH ownership, maintenance, and consolidation & amalgamation.

  The org's hit-men in the LDC can now do what they like with any KH, and no congregation can stand up to them.

  The vice has been fully tightened, and the B.O.E.'s know it!
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  This might be my last post

  by Akid48 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so my aunt hates pcs but works in a office job and uses a pc to do work she has worked there for 23 years she taking me and my brothers laptops etc and she said i have to earn it doing jw things studying listening at meetings etc.. so if it is the last time i post hear i thank you all for you have told me i wish the all of you the best life you can have.i will try to post hear this will start when im in school..

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  The Fall Guy

  Keep posting and keep learning. Your aunt cannot stop you from using your own mind.
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  I wish I had not gone to the meeting last night

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the first thing i saw when i went in was the two video screens having the watchtower singers chorus doing a number.

  the sound wasn't up enough to make out the song, but the video was grotesque.

  the singers were swaying to the music, all independent of each other, no discipline, actually sloppy-looking.

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  The Fall Guy

  :) Thanks for putting a smile on my face. So glad I was at home and missed all the "fun."
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  August 15, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS IN THE US BRANCH TERRITORY Re: Translation of the 2017 Annual Meeting Program

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  august 15, 2017 to all congregations in the united states branch territory re: translation of the 2017 annual meeting programand.

  december 31, 2016 to all congregations in the united states branch territory re: 2017 annual meeting and warwick/wallkill dedication program.

  this will only add to the speculation around the possible release of the spanish "silver sword"..

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  The Fall Guy

  Greatly appreciate your efforts and contribution, WiFiBandit.
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  Is it alright for a Disfellowshipped Jehovah's Witness to Date?

  by preacherman in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  it is said that a dfed is handed over to satan and left alone in his or her gross unrepentant conduct.

  however, you'll agree with me that not all dfeds are living that way.

  the truth is that some have actually repented and stopped their bad conducts but have fallen victim to the legalistic and procedural expediences of the wbts which makes it very difficult for some to come back in the shortest period of time.

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  The Fall Guy

  "Birds of a feather flock together." Get to know a prospective partner's views on the really important things in life - including their beliefs. If you can accept their opinions without them causing rifts between you - especially when children enter your lives - then go for it.
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  ARC recommendations. Read for yourselves

  by zeb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2017-08/report-on-criminal-justice-released.

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  The Fall Guy

  THE FAILURE to REPORT OFFENCE

  We recommend the introduction of a new criminal offence of failure to report targeted at child sexual abuse in an institutional context (recommendation 33).

  We recommend that the offence should apply:

  • to any adult who owns or manages or who is a staff member or volunteer of a relevant institution, or who otherwise requires a Working with Children Check clearance for their role – but not to individual foster carers or kinship carers

  • in relevant institutions, including institutions that operate facilities or provide services to children in circumstances where the children are in the care, supervision or control of the institution. The offence would be committed if the person fails to report to police in circumstances where they know, suspect, or should have suspected that an adult associated with the institution was sexually abusing or had sexually abused a child.
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  Concept faithful discreet slave

  by inbetween09 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the "new light" the faithful slave class appeared after jesus came 1914 (rather 1918 he inspected the temple) and was bestowed with assigement to provide spiritual food.. there are a number of problems with this new concept:.

  how did russel and co found out about certain unique teachings diffferent from mainstream christendom?.

  option 1) apparently by himself, as there was no fds at his time.

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  The Fall Guy

  @ inbetween09 - The answer is so clear & simple for anyone to see;

  Brother Rutherford and several of his companions were jailed as a result of statements by J.F.R. in a publication. They were released after serving a short part of the sentence. During this short period of inactivity within the prison's walls, God & Christ examined these incarcerated men, and decided that they alone represented the hierarchy of the only true religion on planet earth, and as such, fulfilled Jesus illustration prophecy about a faithful and discreet slave. Following their release from prison, Brother Rutherford then revealed this wonderful "new light" to the worldwide brotherhood!

  Just because Brother Rutherford invented explained this "prophetic" fulfilment and claimed the title of FDS for his corporation, doesn't mean it isn't true!

  Scriptural evidence is not a requirement in this instance - just faith in men.